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		<title>By: Steffan Antonas</title>
		<link>http://jeffhurtblog.com/2009/07/18/nostalgia-and-old-school-thinking-compromise-today/comment-page-1/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffan Antonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - I particularly appreciated this: &quot;She further felt that I should bring my concerns behind the association’s membership walls and follow a chain of hierarchy to voice my matters privately&quot;. Wow. Your comment on washing dirty laundry made me grin. When people ask you not to air their dirty laundry and deal with it privately, is really them asking you to play by old rules that allow them to deal with you in a way that benefits them, not you. Problems get muffled and deflected, not resolved. As you say, if you clean your laundry, everything will look and smell great in public. ;-). The situation you&#039;re describing is a perfect illustration of why so many people on the web support the transparency movement in government, on corporate blogs, with community management etc - at it&#039;s core, it&#039;s about embracing accountability. Awesome post. Really enjoyed this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; I particularly appreciated this: &#8220;She further felt that I should bring my concerns behind the association’s membership walls and follow a chain of hierarchy to voice my matters privately&#8221;. Wow. Your comment on washing dirty laundry made me grin. When people ask you not to air their dirty laundry and deal with it privately, is really them asking you to play by old rules that allow them to deal with you in a way that benefits them, not you. Problems get muffled and deflected, not resolved. As you say, if you clean your laundry, everything will look and smell great in public. <img src='http://jeffhurtblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . The situation you&#8217;re describing is a perfect illustration of why so many people on the web support the transparency movement in government, on corporate blogs, with community management etc &#8211; at it&#8217;s core, it&#8217;s about embracing accountability. Awesome post. Really enjoyed this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Hurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Hurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cynthia

Wise, wise words! 

I love your idea of a mid-wife helping others embrace Web 2.0. What an awesome way to be the link between the past and the present and we need more people with your ability to do that. However, one has to identify that he or she needs a social media midwife first and that is the challenge. We cannot help people who do not want help. I think fear is the biggest reason why people do not embrace change. Fear of losing control, fear of the unknown, fear of making a mistake.

I am seeing some smart organization executives step forward and say, “We need to learn about this Web 2.0 world and new media.” They form unique partnerships with young savvy Web 2.0 people. They mentor these techies and teach them the business side of the organization and the techies help the executives learn the Web 2.0 world. Again, identifying that one needs to do things differently is the first step.

@Maggie McGary
Thanks for the kinds words. Yes, I agree that her words sounded dated and showed an attitude that does not sit well with most people in today&#039;s society. I also heard a lot of fear in those words and one who was trying to hold back the tide of change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cynthia</p>
<p>Wise, wise words! </p>
<p>I love your idea of a mid-wife helping others embrace Web 2.0. What an awesome way to be the link between the past and the present and we need more people with your ability to do that. However, one has to identify that he or she needs a social media midwife first and that is the challenge. We cannot help people who do not want help. I think fear is the biggest reason why people do not embrace change. Fear of losing control, fear of the unknown, fear of making a mistake.</p>
<p>I am seeing some smart organization executives step forward and say, “We need to learn about this Web 2.0 world and new media.” They form unique partnerships with young savvy Web 2.0 people. They mentor these techies and teach them the business side of the organization and the techies help the executives learn the Web 2.0 world. Again, identifying that one needs to do things differently is the first step.</p>
<p>@Maggie McGary<br />
Thanks for the kinds words. Yes, I agree that her words sounded dated and showed an attitude that does not sit well with most people in today&#8217;s society. I also heard a lot of fear in those words and one who was trying to hold back the tide of change.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McGary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie McGary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second what Cynthia said--you are an awesome blogger with a unique style and a ton of passion about associations. 

And I&#039;m sorry but I&#039;m lmao at &quot;bring my concerns behind the association’s membership walls and follow a chain of hierarchy to voice my matters privately.&quot; Sounds to me a lot like &quot;women should do what their husbands tell them to do&quot; or &quot;children should be seen and not heard.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second what Cynthia said&#8211;you are an awesome blogger with a unique style and a ton of passion about associations. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sorry but I&#8217;m lmao at &#8220;bring my concerns behind the association’s membership walls and follow a chain of hierarchy to voice my matters privately.&#8221; Sounds to me a lot like &#8220;women should do what their husbands tell them to do&#8221; or &#8220;children should be seen and not heard.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia D'Amour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia D'Amour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you are a fab blogger with interesting POV, wicked humor - and the bravery to call out the elephant in the room.

I do worry about those being left behind the SM train. It&#039;s hard to lose face in being so adamantly wrong - and have to step forward later perhaps in shame. 

I think there need to be more mid-wives in the process making it feel safe to explore. Many who &quot;get it&quot; project energy of looking down on those who don&#039;t. Who will serve as a gentle translator and build the bridge for those left behind?

For those not fond of change and exciting new things, this can be a very scary time. (Not that they would admit it of course.)

Just honoring your position - and perhaps walking a few steps in her shoes too.

Cynthia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you are a fab blogger with interesting POV, wicked humor &#8211; and the bravery to call out the elephant in the room.</p>
<p>I do worry about those being left behind the SM train. It&#8217;s hard to lose face in being so adamantly wrong &#8211; and have to step forward later perhaps in shame. </p>
<p>I think there need to be more mid-wives in the process making it feel safe to explore. Many who &#8220;get it&#8221; project energy of looking down on those who don&#8217;t. Who will serve as a gentle translator and build the bridge for those left behind?</p>
<p>For those not fond of change and exciting new things, this can be a very scary time. (Not that they would admit it of course.)</p>
<p>Just honoring your position &#8211; and perhaps walking a few steps in her shoes too.</p>
<p>Cynthia</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Locke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeff, you always give such great responses to comment posts, you should give a workshop.  

anyway, also wanted to quote norman mailer, who once said, &quot;writing a book is like prizefighting.  win or lose, you&#039;re going to take a beating.&quot;  if you do truly &quot;engage&quot; with your audience, there wil be times when that engagement will expose negativity.  historically speaking, cutting edge artists, scientists and philosophers have generally been arrested at least once.  you&#039;re in good company. - jl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeff, you always give such great responses to comment posts, you should give a workshop.  </p>
<p>anyway, also wanted to quote norman mailer, who once said, &#8220;writing a book is like prizefighting.  win or lose, you&#8217;re going to take a beating.&#8221;  if you do truly &#8220;engage&#8221; with your audience, there wil be times when that engagement will expose negativity.  historically speaking, cutting edge artists, scientists and philosophers have generally been arrested at least once.  you&#8217;re in good company. &#8211; jl</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Hurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Hurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karen Swim
Thanks for the comment and kind reply. I really like what you said about claiming our own voice. Appreciate it.

@Michael McCurry
Thanks for the great feedback. I agree with you that learning to embrace change is important for all organizations. Change happens!

@Justin Locke
Very well stated. Thoughtful and insightful. Thank you for adding to the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karen Swim<br />
Thanks for the comment and kind reply. I really like what you said about claiming our own voice. Appreciate it.</p>
<p>@Michael McCurry<br />
Thanks for the great feedback. I agree with you that learning to embrace change is important for all organizations. Change happens!</p>
<p>@Justin Locke<br />
Very well stated. Thoughtful and insightful. Thank you for adding to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Old School &#124; Celebrity news</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old School &#124; Celebrity news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karen Swim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Swim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, clearly this person really does not get it. Your blog, far from being obscure is not the voice of their authority but yours. The name clearly states that it is a view from the trenches, social media in its purest form is exactly that. We no longer need to be anointed with authority, we claim it by owning our voice, opinions and insights.  Keep up the fantastic work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, clearly this person really does not get it. Your blog, far from being obscure is not the voice of their authority but yours. The name clearly states that it is a view from the trenches, social media in its purest form is exactly that. We no longer need to be anointed with authority, we claim it by owning our voice, opinions and insights.  Keep up the fantastic work!</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by Jeffhurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by Jeffhurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael McCurry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McCurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,

I find it rather ironic that any person would find your blog &quot;obscure&quot; as it is anything but that.

I have been reading your blog posts for quite some time now and I say unhesitatingly they are thought provoking and refreshing.   As Betsy Myers stated in the WEC opening General Session we are in the &quot;new now&quot; .... life is just not the same as it was 6 months ago and it never will be ... your blog embodies that spirit!

The traditional &quot;top down&quot; approach to communication and &quot;controlled&quot; approach to interactivity just does not cut it.  We can&#039;t afford to sweep our problems and challenges under a rug and just hope they will go away.  We need to talk openly about them and collaborate with our colleagues to figure out where to go next in this life journey.

The only way associations are going to remain relevant and sustain or grow their memberships is by embracing change, encouraging free collaboration amongst their members and synthesize the ideas presented into a workable action plan to catapult their organizations to a newer, higher level.

Running from new ideas, technologies and business models is not only foolish, but a race an organization can&#039;t win.

Mike McCurry
http://twitter.com/michaelmccurry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>I find it rather ironic that any person would find your blog &#8220;obscure&#8221; as it is anything but that.</p>
<p>I have been reading your blog posts for quite some time now and I say unhesitatingly they are thought provoking and refreshing.   As Betsy Myers stated in the WEC opening General Session we are in the &#8220;new now&#8221; &#8230;. life is just not the same as it was 6 months ago and it never will be &#8230; your blog embodies that spirit!</p>
<p>The traditional &#8220;top down&#8221; approach to communication and &#8220;controlled&#8221; approach to interactivity just does not cut it.  We can&#8217;t afford to sweep our problems and challenges under a rug and just hope they will go away.  We need to talk openly about them and collaborate with our colleagues to figure out where to go next in this life journey.</p>
<p>The only way associations are going to remain relevant and sustain or grow their memberships is by embracing change, encouraging free collaboration amongst their members and synthesize the ideas presented into a workable action plan to catapult their organizations to a newer, higher level.</p>
<p>Running from new ideas, technologies and business models is not only foolish, but a race an organization can&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>Mike McCurry<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/michaelmccurry" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/michaelmccurry</a></p>
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